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Post by horseguy on Sept 30, 2015 22:11:45 GMT
There are many methods of riding. Most of the distinctions or differences between methods go back to national standards begun in a country's mounted cavalry. Our American tradition began with the First City Troop in Philadelphia during the Revolutionary War. At that time we were part of England and therefore our riding and training was English. English cavalry training and riding instruction was strictly regimental, with standards typically handed down by word of mouth with few written manuals. With each cavalry regiment having its own unique take on the overall British national method, which evolved into the British Horse Society, Competition between regiments was a matter of pride in their method. This was considered a positive in the context of military preparedness. The problem was that it was a bit of a problem for a rider to switch regiments, given the training differences.
The U.S. Army continued the British regimental approach to teaching and training until after the Spanish American War. Then at the turn of the 20th century it became clear that what was to become World War One was approaching. The Army General Staff in Washington D.C. in their planning for oncoming war reevaluated all forms of military training, including the cavalry. It was decided that the continental European centralized method of training cavalry was superior to the old British regimental system and would be preferable for U.S. cavalrymen in the event of a war with Europe.
With no national cavalry method or manuals, we looked to our old ally France to supply needed training standards and manuals, which the readily gave to the U.S. Army. These manuals represented centuries of knowledge and training and were the equivalent of "Top Secret" at the time. America also had not centralized training facility from which to train using a universal national method. Fort Riley Kansas was selected due to its geographically central location. The French manuals were sent their and a Captain Campbell translated them into American English. This was the birth of the U.S. Army Mounted Service School that trained mounted cavalry, mounted artillery, mounted signal corps and other elements of the Army that employed horses and mules. Fort Riley had a vet school, farrier school and saddler's school along with the riding and training school. Eventually Fort Riley became only the school for cavalry. At that time, a young officer, Harry D. Chamberlin who had never ridden a horse until he attended the Academy at West Point and quickly became an expert rider, rewrote the original French Manuals and thus founded the authentically American Fort Riley Seat.
Col. Harry D. Chamberlin
The Fort Riley Seat was the envy of the equestrian world in international competition from the 1920's until the 1970's. During that time our national riding method influenced many country's riding methods. George Morris, a civilian rider who was 7 years old when World War II ended learned to ride in the post war period under the instruction of Gordon Wright, a Fort Riley instructor. Morris went on to win numerous international equestrian championships in the 1950's and 60's.
George Morris 1960 (note - no crest release)
America was changing during that post war era. Economic prosperity allowed many more people to take up horseback riding. Seeing this, Morris developed a new simplified riding method he called "Hunter Seat Equitation" and introduced it to America with his famous name in the 1970's. The rest is history, as they say. Morris's method, which is a series of shortcuts and edits of the Fort Riley Seat was met with enormous popularity. Long story short, from then on American international riding devolved to the point now where in the past several Olympics the U.S. has done no better than 5th in Eventing, once called "The Military" because of it cavalry origins.
I post this because it is how I was taught to ride in the 1950's. As a young man I watched the "new" Morris method being introduced and take hold. I watched, for example, the Hunter/Jumper crest release go from being identified by my instructor as a "mistake" to the newly approved method of releasing a horse over a jump. I dismissed Morris' method as a passing fad then. I was wrong.
Contemporary crest release
Here are some links to contemporary websites that still value and promote the traditional military standard of riding:
ushorsemanship.com
www.triplecreekfarmpa.com/History_of_Balanced_Seat.html
theridinginstructor.net
www.gilmorehorsemanship.com
glenshee.blogspot.com/2009/01/crest-release-and-how-it-has-ruined.html
Please feel free to add more sites. Absent from my list is the website of Society of the Military Horse. This is because it has more of a focus on cavalry equipment, uniforms and so on. The participants are generally not riders, but collectors, and in this regard it is a useful source.
I would really like to see more discussion of other traditional riding and training methods. I know Jimmy is involved in the Vaquero traditional method, for example. There are also very important distinctions between French and German dressage worth exploring here. My point is, there is more to riding than "I ride western" or "I ride English", which sadly is where a great many American rider's and instructor's consciousness resides.
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Post by Maritza on Oct 3, 2015 21:42:55 GMT
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Post by horseguy on Oct 4, 2015 13:45:16 GMT
The following 10 posts are U.S. Cavalry training videos from the late 1930's and early 1940's. You may have to wait while they all load.
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Post by horseguy on Oct 4, 2015 13:46:41 GMT
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Post by horseguy on Oct 4, 2015 13:47:32 GMT
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Post by horseguy on Oct 4, 2015 13:48:10 GMT
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Post by horseguy on Oct 4, 2015 13:49:36 GMT
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Post by horseguy on Oct 4, 2015 13:50:38 GMT
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Post by horseguy on Oct 4, 2015 13:58:43 GMT
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Post by horseguy on Oct 4, 2015 13:59:41 GMT
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Post by horseguy on Oct 4, 2015 14:02:27 GMT
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Post by horseguy on Oct 4, 2015 14:12:23 GMT
The "C" position was used as a defensive riding position typically on descents like this picture or slides like those shown in the video below. When I was a boy in the 1950's my instructor taught this position with feet forward, upper body folded forward at the waist and the rider's seat lightly off the saddle. Before we would slide down into a creek he would ask, "Why are we forward with our upper body in the decent?" We boys would raise our hands to answer and he would pick a student to give the correct answer, which was, "Because we make a smaller target, Sir."
This video shows the "C" position in a slide.
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Post by jimmy on Oct 4, 2015 15:33:47 GMT
This is great stuff. Thanks for posting. Your article on the beginning of US Cavalry is very helpful. I am still going though all the videos. So far, there are many things that are so simple and basic, and many instruction glosses right over it. I found it interesting the differentiation in terms of a direct rein, which was used in slowing or stopping, and the leading rein. Now a days, the term leading rein is used interchangeably with the term the direct rein. Many concepts stand out, and must go directly to the French influence. Such as; the division of support, the separation of aids, the intermittent use of an aid or support, avoiding constant contact to avoid the tendency of the horse to lean on the bit, which is become the norm today. and they call it "on the bit". Having recently attended a Spanish in hand clinic, it was interesting to hear him say the snaffle was for elevating the head. Which is exactly what the classical dressage guy was saying. The curb brings the chin in and tends to lower the head. That use of the snaffle is exactly opposite in many western circles and clinicians, where the snaffle is used to tuck and lower. Something I now hate to see.
There may be some modern improvements, though. It is hard to watch the horse's upside down necks. He even says, as you gather the horse, you must shorten the reins, because the head comes up and back. Looks ewe neck to me when they do that.
I like the military approach to teaching. I find it so hard in teaching people to simply follow instruction, and let the drill explain the rest. But so many people want to stop and ask a question, or change direction, or do something else. Many adults cannot grasp following a directive, and seem insulted if you insist they be quiet and follow your instructions. Ask the questions later. Poor Irwin may never get it though.
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Post by horseguy on Oct 5, 2015 19:28:24 GMT
So far, there are many things that are so simple and basic, and many instruction glosses right over it. I found it interesting the differentiation in terms of a direct rein, which was used in slowing or stopping, and the leading rein. Now a days, the term leading rein is used interchangeably with the term the direct rein. Many concepts stand out, and must go directly to the French influence. Such as; the division of support, the separation of aids, the intermittent use of an aid or support, avoiding constant contact to avoid the tendency of the horse to lean on the bit, which is become the norm today. and they call it "on the bit". Having recently attended a Spanish in hand clinic, it was interesting to hear him say the snaffle was for elevating the head. Which is exactly what the classical dressage guy was saying. The curb brings the chin in and tends to lower the head. That use of the snaffle is exactly opposite in many western circles and clinicians, where the snaffle is used to tuck and lower. Something I now hate to see.
Jimmy, I think the use of the reins and the rest you describe is from the French. Harry Chamberlin's other published book, Riding and Schooling Horses in Chapter 4 describes the correct use of the reins. There are great diagrams. He discusses direct rein, leading rein, baring rein and rein of opposition (support). It's too long for me to type in here but you get a general sense from what he wrote over a few pages that playing a 12 string guitar might be easier than the subtlety that the various reins combinations require. A very quick summary would go to the old saying, "Inside leg, outside rein, as a pair between which we would hold our horse between the aids, and inside rein, outside leg, as the other pair. It is these two pairs of aids that make up the diagonal aids, and when we have a horse in a bend we are told to hold the horse back and forth between these two pairs, avoiding constant contact to avoid the tendency of the horse to lean on the bit, as you say.
It sound more complicated than it is and Chamberlin simplifies it nicely with his diagrams and words. The bottom line is he is telling us how to hold the horse in whatever collection we desire by means of rein and leg aids in the classic "between the aids" manner. What is very disappointing for me is that in the 1970's George Morris basically edits all these principles out of the Balanced or Military Seat and gives us Hunter Set Equitation. That is how we got to the current place you describe. Many "English" riders today simply throw the horse's head around with the reins and are satisfied with the horse just following the nose regardless of their horse's state of balance or imbalance. Morris chalks all this "improvement" up to simplifying horsemanship. To me it's lite beer, which is not beer at all.
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Post by jimmy on Oct 6, 2015 14:44:37 GMT
Where do you think those training films were taken?
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