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Post by jimmy on Oct 14, 2016 1:46:09 GMT
"Ante up" is an expression you don't hear so much publicly, on facebook, or in books.
The old horsemen I knew used it. It would nowadays be viewed as some form of abuse.
This goes along with the subject of rigor, discipline. Not as in correcting, but more along the lines of what some call "calling on your horse", Sometimes, the horse has to ante up the effort. The skill is in "getting in to him" and then out of him, just as quickly. The horse doesn't take it as punishment, but as a call for full attention and effort.
The best description I have heard comes from a cowhorse trainer I know, who said the following,
"I can't make a horse do what I want, but I can darn sure make him wish he had!"
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Post by Jlynn on Oct 14, 2016 11:47:08 GMT
My dad played poker with the guys twice a week - I heard the expression a lot, but never in connection with horsemanship!
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Post by rideanotherday on Oct 14, 2016 12:01:34 GMT
"Ante up" is an expression you don't hear so much publicly, on facebook, or in books. The old horsemen I knew used it. It would nowadays be viewed as some form of abuse. This goes along with the subject of rigor, discipline. Not as in correcting, but more along the lines of what some call "calling on your horse", Sometimes, the horse has to ante up the effort. The skill is in "getting in to him" and then out of him, just as quickly. The horse doesn't take it as punishment, but as a call for full attention and effort. The best description I have heard comes from a cowhorse trainer I know, who said the following, "I can't make a horse do what I want, but I can darn sure make him wish he had!" I have heard the expression before, both in horses and in sports. I think it's a really good expression of the fact that the horse has to put some effort in so that both rider and horse benefit. |
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Post by horseguy on Oct 14, 2016 16:20:26 GMT
It reminds me of what some people say as they toss some chips into the pot. "I'm in". My favorite horse of all time, Riley never folded. He said "I'm in" no matter what. You don't get too many horses like that.
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Post by horseguy on Oct 16, 2016 14:03:20 GMT
I think this is an important topic. I think it relates directly to "square zero" from Ray Hunt. We need to make room in the process for the horse to "ante up". In poker there are rules that make a place and time to ante up but in riding or training sometimes we can become so intent on a specific that we don't make a space for the horse to contribute. I am guilty of this. I get so singularly focused on the outcome I am trying to train that I have caught myself shutting out the horse's contribution because it was not exactly what I wanted. He was trying to ante up but it wasn't the way I was set on. This is so often the case. We don't leave room for the horse to ante up their idea of anteing up. There is no conversation that can take place, when training horses is based on that conversation.
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Post by candy on Oct 16, 2016 14:46:14 GMT
That is interesting, we can get so focused on our out come that we ignore what the horse is trying to tell us. That is so true in life, we must simply be open.
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